You are right that scripture is not the basis for morality. Scripture is God revealing himself to us. God's character and nature are the basis for morality.
Is it the part where God punishes the innocent people living in a palace with great suffering (story of Abram’s betrayal of Sarai), his drowning of every child in the world, his burning other children alive with fire from heaven, his commands of murder and genocide, regulation of slavery, demands to be satisfied by primitive blood sacrifices, oppression of women and children, his jealous nature and persecution of other religions, discrimination against the physically challenged, his angry punishing nature, etc that is the basis for morality or something else?
The philosophical problem of evil is a tough one for EVERY system of belief including atheism. Christians have an answer to the question though.
However, I'm more interested to how you respond to it.
How does naturalism or atheism account for evil (please, lets not play word games), suffering, bad things happening to good people, or whatever you want to call it?
I am not sure what I am responding to here. Are you suggesting our ideas of good and evil are not constantly evolving?
It was once considered good to own slaves, preachers assured their flocks that slavery ”was of God“. But our sense of good and evil evolved and we now consider it evil.
There is a clear if uneven trend toward greater sensitivity to “the other”. Whether that other be women, minorities, children, animals, the earth itself, etc.
I am always excited when my own sense of good and evil changes, evolves. Hopefully I am becoming more sensitive to more things all the time. For example, I now consider it evil to raise animals in factory farms and to kill animals needlessly. I believe someday we will no longer do such things. I believe it is evil to poison a child’s mind with the fear of hell. It is evil to torture prisoners the way our government does. Etc, etc.
1. Christianity is INHERENTLY DIVISIVE as believers are promised eternal bliss and nonbelievers eternal torture.
2. Christianity INDUCES UNWARRANTED GUILT AND FEAR by asserting that a Cosmic Judge watches one’s every move and knows one’s every thought.
3. Christianity OBSCURES TRUTH AND PROMOTES FALSEHOODS by diverting focus from the natural (real) to the supernatural (unreal).
4. Christianity DEBASES HUMANITY by condemning us as sinners worthy of eternal damnation.
5. Christianity BREEDS A FALSE SENSE OF IMPORTANCE by asserting that The King of the Universe knew each of us intimately before we were born, knows the numbers of hairs on our head, has a special plan for us, loves us, watches us, listens to our every word, desperately wants a personal relationship with us and even promises to give us anything we ask for (Mt 21.22).
6. Christianity’s assertion that the Devil is real ALLOWS FOR THE LITERAL DEMONIZING of others.
7. Christianity PROVIDES THE ULTIMATE JUSTIFICATION FOR EVILS of all kinds (such as the vilifying of homosexuals and the subjection of women).
8. Christianity’s THREAT OF HELL HARDENS HEARTS and causes others mental anguish.
9. Christianity PROVIDES COVER FOR ABUSES OF ALL KINDS as evidenced by thousands of sexual abuse cases in the last few years alone.
10. Christianity LEGITIMIZES FRAUD as evidenced by countless insincere televangelists and church leaders.
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You are right that scripture is not the basis for morality. Scripture is God revealing himself to us. God's character and nature are the basis for morality.
Is it the part where God punishes the innocent people living in a palace with great suffering (story of Abram’s betrayal of Sarai), his drowning of every child in the world, his burning other children alive with fire from heaven, his commands of murder and genocide, regulation of slavery, demands to be satisfied by primitive blood sacrifices, oppression of women and children, his jealous nature and persecution of other religions, discrimination against the physically challenged, his angry punishing nature, etc that is the basis for morality or something else?
The philosophical problem of evil is a tough one for EVERY system of belief including atheism. Christians have an answer to the question though.
However, I'm more interested to how you respond to it.
How does naturalism or atheism account for evil (please, lets not play word games), suffering, bad things happening to good people, or whatever you want to call it?
Evil is a non-issue. Nothing at all mysterious about evil. It is simply a word that describes an especially abhorent act.
And our ideas about what is evil are always evolving.
Our ideas about what is evil are always evolving?
So in the future we might think something like 9/11 or the Holocaust was a good thing.
We might even get to a point some day where we think it's virtuous to prostitute young children.
Perhaps if evolution goes well, we might one day embrace rape and murder.
Please don't offer a red herring here. Address the issues.
I am not sure what I am responding to here. Are you suggesting our ideas of good and evil are not constantly evolving?
It was once considered good to own slaves, preachers assured their flocks that slavery ”was of God“. But our sense of good and evil evolved and we now consider it evil.
There is a clear if uneven trend toward greater sensitivity to “the other”. Whether that other be women, minorities, children, animals, the earth itself, etc.
I am always excited when my own sense of good and evil changes, evolves. Hopefully I am becoming more sensitive to more things all the time. For example, I now consider it evil to raise animals in factory farms and to kill animals needlessly. I believe someday we will no longer do such things. I believe it is evil to poison a child’s mind with the fear of hell. It is evil to torture prisoners the way our government does. Etc, etc.
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